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[原创] Pacific Archival Updates (May 2015 - April 2016)

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November 2015:

Secondly, AR2-related update. Estimated release schedule is December of this year. We can't afford a physical print in English, so we'll probably post the short stories and assorted lore to our website instead.

I promise we weren't intentionally trying to mystify the last (so far) ship girl to be added to AR2, but her story is one that is quite unique.

Meet United States Shipgirl U-2513. Her given name is Lorelei, though most of her friends call her Lori.

In the story we're slowly weaving and revealing to our readers, Lori is an immigrant to the United States (much like her historical counterpart that was formally commissioned into the US navy). Her reasons for leaving (East) Germany are many and varied, but remember that in the world of Pacific, Germany never reunified. Given that the Pacific USSR has no hint of weakness as a result of some very far-sighted reforms carried out on the behest of the leader of the Supreme Soviet of Russia, it is likely that Germany will remain separated in the near future.

Lori's personality is basically like a grown-up version of Shaw from Pacific 1. She's sweet, well-meaning, and very much an idealist. Unlike some of the other girls who are on Avalon base as a result of political maneuvering or escaping from unpleasant situations, Lori's really here because she wants to be American, plain and simple.

See, unlike K9 or Sune, my roots have been here. My ancestors immigrated to America hundreds of years ago. It wasn't until K9 said something to me that I suddenly realized that there's one aspect of America that we could actually celebrate and highlight in Pacific: the fact that America is a nation of immigrants, plain and simple. It's part of our cultural mythos. Part of our identity, you might say, as Americans.


Er, one sec.

Pennsy. Bad timing.


...One sec. I'll be back later.

Right around this time, too, did I first take a stab at what would eventually become 2016.


It's fun writing Pennsy. It really is. x) And speaking of history, November was the first time where I seriously started thinking about making a stab at what I thought was a rather serious issue.

History, by definition, is biased. Without bias you have no opinion. I have opinions. I have my biases - that of being an American, and that of someone who believes genuinely in a set of values. That would mean - explicitly or implicitly - that someone, somewhere out there is wrong.

I'm not out to prove anyone wrong. I'm out to prove that I (or we) could be right.

I will be diplomatic. I will be respectful. But do not for a second think that I will dodge anything controversial in the greater context of the discussion. I will not soften anything just because that might offend someone's sensibilities. I'm not going to go out of my way to pick fights, but when it is necessary for us to look at difficult topics, it's what we will do.

Look. We picked Edsall fo volume 2. This is a ship whose IRL history had her crew members slaughtered and executed in cold blood by the Japanese navy. We're talking about decapitation and mutilation, here. Do you think for a second that a real curious on-looker WOULDN'T go and try to find out what happened to her crew?

I'm hoping that people do, and based on the feedback we've seen and we've received? Some people are doing exactly that. It is my hope that you'll find a ship girl that you like (because she agrees with you), and it is my hope that you'll learn something from those that don't.

For instance, take any contemporary issue. You have two polar opposites - Sanny and Pennsy.

San Francisco's cynicism and (fairly) far-left politics is pretty much picture-perfect of what the democrats should, rather than what they are now. Maybe Democrats aren't all moral degenerates pushing minority agendas and trying to enslave America. Look at Pennsy, who - as much as she resembles a caricature of the contemporary American (far)right - is representative of a viewpoint that is held by many people, and who knows. Talk to her and maybe she'll prove to be right. Maybe Republicans aren't all (manywords)-phobic wall-street 1%ers out of touch with reality.

"What happens to the historical ships that have transferred navies? How do the shipgirls work then?"

1. The geopolitical conditions which led to historical ship transfers do not exist for ship girls in the 1990 Pacific universe. For example, there is no need for lend lease in 1990 Pacific between the USA and UK, as the UK is not fighting a desperate war against Nazi Germany. Some historical transfers such as HMS Royal Sovereign to the USSR - now a cold war rival - as Arkhangelsk would never occur. Yukikaze was surrendered to Chinese forces as a prize because Japan lost in WW2. 1990 Pacific Japan would have absolutely no reason to give away Yukikaze.

Additional answers from the team:

How different countries treat shpigirls are entirely dependent on their own views on what shipgirls are. It's a political theme that pops up consistently.

And, an ORIONS update!

Right, first things first. I dumped a bunch of WIP pictures on Himeuta pertaining to the ORIONS print.

As I've said, Zero's a stickler for double-checking things. Partly explains why I've never personally seen one person complain about Pacific's printing being bad. It's mostly the boxes being fragile. xD

"Do shipgirls care about their past selves? What do they remember, if anything at all?"

Some do. Some don't.
It should be assumed that most (if not all) ship girls will have a fairly good idea of what their past WW2 namesakes did. They don't remember everything, only key fragments. But they have enough fragments that they can identify themselves as the 'heroic spirit' of that past ship, and do things like seek out and visit the family of their namesake's captain on their own initiative.

And for what they can't remember, there are these things in 1990 call WW2 history books, which they can pick up and read in as well to fill in some gaps.
Pacific's characters just aren't blind copy-pastes of WW2 vessels. They're girls first and foremost.

Take Sculpin for instance. Does she HAVE to hold a grudge against Yamagumo? No. Of course not. She's just not that type of person. And hell, looking at Yamagumo in game, I don't think she'd hate Sculpin either. If anything I can see them lounge around and be high-on-life together.

Maury and Shimakaze might hold a friendly rivalry. Both claim to be the fastest in their respective navies - but that doesn't stem from the war, it stems from the competitive spirit between friends. Think less ship and more human.

More art for AR2. :)

"Are paper ships canon?"

Yes. There are a few characters who are for lack of a better term, anomalies in Pacific as well. Zao talks a bit about herself and how she came about in AR2, and she plays a very specific role (from an out of universe perspective) that really digs into what a shipgirl is.

Speaking of which, here's a quick sketch we did for the two conventions that we ended up attending.

Of course, by now, boxes and boxes of stuff is a regular occurrence at this point.

Some general commentary on Mobo games and one reason for why we aren't interested in them.

(For the record: We usually have no problems with people using our characters non-commercially. Just let us know what you're going to do.)

And, of course, one of my favorite 4koma. xD

Meanwhile, November's been quietly working on a new cover.

What we're doing too is to create more loot for comiket.

I'm personally not fond of the buttons, so I'll come up with something else for the US-based grab bag/goodie bag. Depending on how early we can get into a printer slot for a smaller run (if you know people willing to bankroll us we'd love to make more books, but alas, we only have so much pocket money to go around), it'll determine how early the Pacific physical books get printed in English.

And so, the month of November ends with Zero taking a quick trip overseas... :)







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December 2015:

A quick update for everyone.

We knocked it out of the park. Pacific was gone in the first day (both vol 1 and vol 2) and Zero had to break out the backups for the second day (but at the same time, it meant he had time to wander around in Singapore).

Over in Shanghai, I think something like a few hundred were gone by afternoon? November drew so many live-sketches that he told us his arm was sore. Again, better than we've ever done before.

We are also encouraged by significant demand from Singapore for an English release. Zero said that a lot of the Singapore buyers said they wouldn't mind getting it again in English just to see what it looks like, so ... I guess pressure's on.

As for the English itself? Volume one is in proofs and should be out for printing sometimes soon. As always, I have more details forthcoming.

I was optimistic then. x) Still am. If we ever make a book based on the adventures of the team, this should be a great point.

November drew plenty of live sketches for folks that came out to see us at Shanghai. Here's a Shokaku, uploaded by one of our fans.

And here's a November, drawing Maury on a Pacific 2 book.

This was our booth setting up. Within approximately half the day we went from all those (and stacks behind the tables) to this.

Yup, we ran out of stock within half a day. Which gave us a lot of time to wander around.

Big WG sign. So far so good.

It turned out that there were a LOT of people lining up. Easily one of the most populated destinations at AFA (I believe there's also a WT booth but we didn't check it out xD)

We were able to get a fairly clear shot at the station, but unfortunately, I think (or we were told) that you aren't supposed to be filming gameplay.

A lot of people playing WOWS with the special Arpeggio modes enabled.

I gotta say, what's most impressive was the "battle box." xD

Of course, while the team was out, I was busy trying to get AR2 completed in time for a convention in December.

I found that it is impractical to translate my longer pieces into Chinese (and Japanese, for that matter), so for AR2, I am experimenting with short stories as a way to tell the lore and tell the stories involving our ship girls. My professor has always told me that a short is harder than a longer work because you MUST play each element well, so we'll see how good (or bad) I am soon.

For AR2, since we are focusing on the world as a whole, I am going to focus on aspects of cultural exchange. Pacific isn't going to turn into say, the Red Navy Collection or the Royal Navy Collection any time soon. Our focus is still going to be on STEC's activities and the ship girls we've made. However, a supporting cast is not less important than the main cast. In fact, I'd say they're more important, because written well, you can illustrate significant and substantial differences in fundamental things that make characters, well, characters.

For Tasha, the working title I have is "America, what a country!"

This is an incomplete image, but we wanted to explore a little as to what happened in the alternative Soviet Union. The Soviets are NOT on the verge of collapse in 1990 in Pacific's timeline. They aren't quite prosperous, and shortages in goods that has historically plagued the USSR exist also in Pacific. At the same time, howev

Простите Товарищ. Supreme Leader Morgane is unwell. There is no such thing as shortage in Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. We have study her story carefully and misunderstandings is now corrected.

Also, Action Reporting #2 now contain also story of glorious people's struggle against abyssal monster and insidious counter-revolutionary in addition to silly story about та́ша partaking state-approved capitalist decadence with American подруга.

До свидания.

Then, of course, during the course of research, I sat down and really gave Ari a voice.


"Where can I get more of an idea about what Pacific is?"

Pacific is a doujin project. Its lore can be generally found in our primary works. These are respectively the Action Report series (AR) and the Pacific books which gives a glance into our characters' mind. The bit that is on TVTropes is a leaked (intentionally or otherwise) piece about the setting of Pacific "proper", which frames itself as alternative history starting in the 1950s. I've also posted plenty of stuff on everything from fairy lore to how physics function, but we are looking into ways to collate and standardize the information as a result.

I'll freely admit that my original, original intent from September 2014 was to open the plotline up for whoever interested to participate. That is now deemed unrealistic due to time restraints, so I'm looking into alternative methods for now.

You can see six months later, there's been progress. Just not much. x) At least now everything's in one place now.

"Why isn't the Taobao tutorial in English?"

Taobao has recently consolidated their business practices by shifting most international shipping into approved EMS or other Taobao-aligned international carriers. In compliance with their regulation we are forced to take down that particular item.

Zero wrote a tutorial with leslin here for our international Chinese buyers, many of whom are students studying in the U.S. Honestly, my opinion is a bit mixed. On one hand it's much faster and apparently much less likely to cause damage to the books, on the other hand it's a tad bit pricier than what we'd like for our folks to pay shipping.

In either case, the reason why this tutorial isn't in English is because from my perspective, people who could read the language doesn't need me to translate it into English, and I feel bad about people buying a copy of a book that they can't read. If you still want one that badly (we'd be really flattered by the support, of course), shoot me a PM.

Anyways, time passed in a literal blur.

1. Right now? Same as previous announcements. Japanese Pacific 2 is off to printers. AR2 is stacked up and we're largely done (trying to figure out if November wants to put any more sketches in). English vol. 1 is out, soon, and basically will be out of my hands because we've decided that we'll be minimally intrusive in how our distributor chooses to handle the physical copy distribution.

2. Marby's personality is extroverted, but her social skills are a bit lacking because she spends quite a lot of time reading and writing. Rather than using tropes, I would like to categorize her behavior based on Chapman's languages of love.

In rank order, she would probably prefer:
- Verbally displaying affection, as awkward as it may be. Commander may not necessarily find it flattering to be compared to controversial literary figures with a penchant for being drunk *cough Marby's favorite author cough*, but other times she'd be good at hitting the mark. Expect to find her voice messages on your phone (if we're moving onto 2020 territory).
- Quality time spent. Small town East Coast girl. Dinner is never eaten in front of the T.V. Obviously she'd expect you to make time for her as well.
- Physical intimacy. Marby is high on the need to be hugged and touched. It's a woman thing. Note that as sexist as this may sound, my own degree in social psychology is a somewhat traditionalist one - that is to say, we subscribe to general beliefs about different schemas, social norms, and etc about men and women.
- Acts of service/devotion and Gifts: Marby's not very good at doing stuff for you. She's not like Weavy from book 2 or Raleigh from book 1 (one will bag you a deer randomly the other will probably keep the house clean) since it's just not how her brain works. Unlike Jer or Pacific!Kumano (a regular supporting character in the background lore), she's cultured, but not haute culture enough to know how to shop for someone. Marby recognizes the desire to get something exceptional but she probably ends up on Amazon searching for "best gift for men" and pick stuff out of there.

I can't show all of these yet (partly because I haven't received all of them), but I believe this is what's going into the loot bag for vol. 2 and AR2. The sticker sheet of vol. 1 characters was apparently one of the most popular things we've ever made, and we thought, why not.

What you can see here in this update is the last iteration of the Pacific English DRAFT before I sat down and thought carefully about how better to communicate these things to our audience.

"Yorktowns aren't small carriers historically therefore your designs are bad."

Are you aware of what the original designed size for the Hiryu is? Because that's what I'm talking of when speaking of naval intelligence. Or what the actual definition of "fleet carrier" is for their respective countries' operational purposes? There's very clear reasons for why the Soryu/Hiryu split technically occurred, after all, and not all was funding issues.

But let's neglect that topic for now and use numbers as they were built. Time period is now defined as the entirety of the Pacific War.

Here. Let's look at some examples. Straight off of wikipedia or combinedfleet, since it'd have literally taken you a few seconds to look this up.

260.67 m
31.32 m
8.71 m
36,500t displacement.

247.65 m
32.5 m
9.48 m
38,200t displacement.

257.5 m
29 m
9.32 m
32,105 t displacement.

260.6 m
27.4 m
9.6 m
29,770 t displacement.

Let's not even get into G15 or other Japanese supercarrier plans. Those were huge.

Yorktowns are below. For the sake of discussion I've included the absolute maximum you could make as an argument.
230m - 251.38 m
25 m - 33.38 m
7.42 m - 7.9 m
19,800 t displacement.

USN carriers are:

270.7 m
32.3 m
9.3 m
36,000t displacement.

249.9 m - 265.2 m/270.7 m
28.3 m - 45.0 m
7.0 m - 8.4 m
27,100t displacement.

Do I need to bring in Midways?

So, Enterprise is smaller in dimension than:
2x Lexingtons.
24x Essexes.

Out of a total of 2+1(Ranger)+1(Wasp)+24=28 non Yorktown class carriers. For a total of 31 carriers not counting Langley. This means that Enterprise would be anywhere at 28/29 (due to Hornet being oversize) out of 31 in sheer size rank. That's pretty close to the bottom no matter how one looks at it.

How about the Midways? Should we count for those too? Since we're counting Unryus, after all.

In comparison to the Japanese, she is smaller than:
1x Akagi
1x Kaga
2x Shokaku
1x Taihou

Unryus are difficult to classify, but for the sake of argument, let's put those in. I'm ignoring Shinano because I think Shinano really should be a glorified CVL.

That's 2+2(Hiryu+Soryu)+2+1+2(2x completed Unryus) = 9 total, where she is smaller in size than 4-5/9, and smaller in displacement than 5/9.

If we expand out into fantasy fleets, let's put in the two unfinished Unryus and she sits at 5/11 in terms of pure size. But if you want to put in the unfinished Unryus and the planned Unryus you might as well consider both the additional Taihous and the G15s, and the numbers then become thorny from that point on. Japan's ambitions for the G15 had up to eight planned, but different sources will give you anywhere from 2 to 8. We're still looking at the bottom of the 2/3rds in terms of their overall size.

First of all, a common misconception is that "these are just a few meters in difference." They're not. It often means the difference between finishing a ship in due time, or incurring/saving significant costs, resources, or providing a framework around the limitations of treaties. I don't need to say how important it was to adhere (and to cheat) to the treaty given the context of the Pacific War, right?

More importantly, an extra meter or two often means the difference between a (comparatively) easier takeoff or landing. Look at recollections from Kaga or Akagi veterans, and you'll find that one thing that is often talked about is how "spacious" the deck is and how much more pleasurable it is to fly on those rather than say, the 5th CarDiv or the poor Ryujo. In fact, this is something that is arguably unique to the CV classes as a whole, because back when they were experimenting they literally did not know how big of a difference some very basic parameters are.

On the matter of the Hiryus and Soryus are an entirely different discussion, and some day it might be worth looking into. As it stands, the canonical characters drawn by Shibafu are much closer (if one believes in the displacement =~ size thing) to how they were envisioned (which often included 8'' or other main batteries) and were much more significant in size. As I said, what the US assumed and what the US thought they knew is a curious one. This is a story that's worth telling, but now is not the best time.

Secondly, all of the things you mentioned above, the increases in jet aircraft, or the changes in doctrine, or how yes, the U.S. usually carried larger air groups (though again, the fictitious Japanese projects are interesting. As an aside at least two variants of the G15K would have been able to carry upwards of 89 to 96 aircraft not counting spare parts) than their Japanese counterparts...

None of those really have any direct bearing on what is observable to an on-looker, or the fact that these ships were bigger in dimension, or that they displaced more (I don't really need to elaborate on how artists may choose to interpret this aspect, mhm?) than the "Big E." Physically they were larger. We only differ on how much of a difference this might be.

(If anything, the real "Big E" should have been the HMS Eagle. xD)

Like myself, you are free to make your interpretation as you see fit. Opinions are indeed, in the end, opinions. I piped in only because the topic itself is one of passing interest, and honestly I don't write these things for you, specifically (though certainly you are a part of the discussion), but for the curious on-lookers on the side.

An old rule of debate is that you never seek to directly convince the opposing viewpoint. Though I suppose my coach would have disapproved. I have always been too quick to jump into and start arguments.

I usually don't go out of my way to poke people. In fact, I don't mind at all when people pick on me. But when people poke my team, don't be surprised if I poke back.

"How does into Maryland? Is ship or girl? :O"

Many of Pacific's western (English) team members are children of immigrants. Even from someone whose family has been living in the US for generations (pretty much since the revolutionary war) we are still struggling to answer some of the basic existential questions as human beings. Or, for that matter, what it means to be American. Matters of identity is one of the greatest struggles our generation deals with today, because society has largely changed in the blink of an eye.

Why would the ship girls under our craftsmanship be any different? Of course they'd ponder about these things. I'd argue that part of the fun of making this stuff is to really, really get into the mindset of someone who normally thinks very differently, and that's hard to do.

On a question about why we don't want to charge anything for the electronic versions:

You know I usually don't directly answer trope questions, Rener. ;) Have you forgotten that I believe that tropers should be free to form their opinions?

Sorry, Dandy. What should have been a simple answer turned long again.

Dandy, our electronic releases will always be free. That means the English ones as well. The Senate (the team) briefly contemplated the possibility of charging a nominal fee for an electronic copy like an ebook, and this was promptly vetoed by both Caesar (me) and my Princeps Senatus (Zero) and the conversation ended there.

Zero, bless his heart, is an idealist. I'd actually say that damn commie believes in personal equality more so than I do. The way he sees it, if Pacific charges our fans and supporters money for an electronic release, it instantly creates a difference in our readers - those who could afford to buy, and those who could not. That is not how this team does things.

I concur. The way I see it. We aren't in this to make a buck for ourselves. When we need help - and we very well will need help from people down the line - we'll ask for it. But I'd rather shut down this project before we go the way of for-profit webcomics. You know the ones I'm thinking of, where it seems like you're being pressured constantly to donate and to "buy" into greatness.

To clarify, we have nothing against money. Money's great. We love it. But making it is of secondary concern.

I learned at comiket chatting with folks that we are the only doujin group folks there know of to refuse opportunities to monetize, resist buy-out attempts from larger and smaller companies, sends out replacement books on our own, covers shipping out of pocket, and interacts with their audience and readers directly on a regular basis. Heck, even NEIGHBORS make little Pacific gacha button thingies and hug pillows to skim off a few hundred yen off their audiences on the side. Even those things are like, gone within days. Either they're magicians or people like our stuff. I think it might be both.

Yeah, we're stupid. We know. But as I've said before, if Pacific fails, it fails. In this era of half-assed products and forced-DLCs and microtranscations, if Pacific can no longer sustain itself, then I could sleep well at night knowing that we try to do our ourselves and supporters right.
You want to help us? Once we have the English versions out, share it with your friends. The shipping prices are unacceptable (to me, still, which is why we're still negotiating with EMS xD), but once we get the English stuff over to the US, consider buying one of our physical books. Hang out with folks here and let us know what you think.

Now, where is the electronic version?

Due to the quality of the Pacific books, each actual Pacific book is 2-3 to about 15 gigabytes in size. Compression is much more difficult than you'd realize, and to cram that Pennsy page down to proper size is harder than we realize (I can show some half-assed pages if you guys want). That's why it's actually taking time now. It's a little ironic that I've been talking about compression issues like Hillary Clinton's evolving positions since last year, but this problem isn't going away any time soon, and I don't think we know anyone who can help us solve it.

So, until then, what is planned is that we will likely post more scattered fragments or translations from our other books until they're complete, and we'll be placing them on our main website.

Have a potato. These are probably going to be sticker sheets that we're sticking into AR2's very secret-looking folders. Once November draws all of them I'll have a zip file up for people to pick up.

And actually, Hornet too. xD

A bit after that, we showed a character we briefly thought about putting into AR2, but out of consideration for the Chinese team's safety, we switched him out for someone else.

Yup, it's Fuchida. Fuchida plays a not-insignificant role in Pacific proper, as Akagi is able to speak with his real-life counterpart a few months before he would pass away. Arguably speaking, he is a catalyst for a number of events that occur within Pacific!Japan.

[quote]"Captain Fuchida passed away last month peacefully, Fuchida. I'm sorry."

"I see."

The little fairy paused. He took off his headband and turned to face the east. Nothing was said for a long time.



"Did you know Captain Fuchida well?"

"Yes, I suppose so."

A long pause.

"Would he have been proud of me?"

One challenge in the crafting of Pacific characters is how to reconcile the ace fairies with their historical counterparts. Some, for instance (Thach is a good example) gets along very well with his fairy counterpart. The former even offers the latter a little nest made out of cut-up handkerchiefs and matchbox furniture. Others are very much curious. There is exactly one character who has very close connections with Haruna and Zuikaku that I have artificially extended his lifespan by, and the meeting of the ancient man with his not-so-young fairy counterpart... It's worth thinking about. [/quote]

And, of course, more AR2...

Well, since I'm more familiar with Tomonaga and Thach, I can give you what their relationship is.

Tomonaga's a quiet chap. Not much of a talker. In Pacific most of the other fairies thought he's mute since he talks almost entirely in gestures and scribbles on a sign that he carries for more complex communications. Thach is baaaaaaaaaasically the opposite, and his personality is very well documented in contrast, so he's very easy to craft well. Basically, think a slightly larger than life (and low-key) figure in the navy, with a general level of principle that sometimes annoys his superiors.

If that sounds like another Jimmy from another old game series, that's actually not too far off.

Anyways. I'm sure Zero'll put it on the website at some point, but here's a few updates.

This is what AR2 looks like. The offline versions have fairly sturdy document folders such as these.

It's about 60 pages. For contextual purposes, AR1 was 36. So there's a lot more stuff here.

I usually put little bits of trivia to enhance a particular character's profile. Mary and Weavy for instance are meant to contrast between one relatively "well to do" and one "austere" sister. Taking into consideration both history and the realities of the respective states they symbolize, I selected two pertinent details - Maryland's silver (And the drinking habits of McCain) and West Virginia's ship paper encouraging folks to study more.

Though, to tell you the truth? I honestly think people are more excited about the sticker sheets. (Previews are missing a few characters. Once I resize them properly I'll toss them into a zip file.)

"Morgane, you have family who served in the USN?"

According to him the greatest aircraft carrier (not the big E) to ever sail WW2 waters. Basically if we ever actually put HIM in Pacific he'll be like a wrench fairy chief or something.

Of course, while vol. 2 head off to Japan, AR2 gets made, and I'm trying to figure out if I can go home for Christmas, we haven't slacked off either.

Electronic versions are on hold due to Zero needing to be physically at the printers to oversee distribution and other stuff (I think there's some issues with the ink or something else - he's been busy lately). In addition we're preparing to head off to Comiket.

That means shipping and US-based interface are on hold as well. Estimated wait time is unknown, but shouldn't be too long. Other than that, we're still at working making the next books. I'm translating a 4koma right now and will likely wait until the Chinese get back up. xD

Here's an example of the type of things going into the abyssal "databook." You can see we've evolved quite a bit. Well, I think I've gotten better at writing and Sima's gotten better at drawing. xD

"How human are shipgirls?"

Fully human in the context that they experience the full range of whatever definition that humanity is (this I can also write an essay on, but I feel like I'd be wasting everyone's time here with it), and I mean it as a statement in contrast to about 90% of Japanese fanworks, which generally depict characters as "ships." You know, eating metal, drinking fuel, and the like. Some play up for laughs the incapability of metal ships to understand emotions. Others draw in the context of the war and basically funnel in whatever interpretation of an ideal soldier is.

That's another distinction, too, that gets murky sometimes. There are a lot of works (one particular Fubuki doujin comes to mind) where it is a discussion of ship girls as pure weapons of war. Again, that is not what my emphasis is. Hence, fully human in the sense that they're not soldiers or weapons by design or intent.

The first part you highlight is a secondary distinction that I make explicitly in Pacific in that both "superpowers" (eg. super strength, which is actually fairly common in fanworks as well) and "technological powers" are unique to the ship girls themselves. In other words, this sets in stone that in Pacific each ship girl is a unique entity, as is their equipment. You will unfortunately not find the mass-production of ship girl "class" equipment, and well, let's just say that -

Excuse me. It isn't my place to critique (out-of-universe) what an in-universe decision by a country means.

Believe me, STEC would try to mass produce ship girl equipment if they could, but so far they've had zero successes in the last thirty years.

Yeah, this was a learning process for everyone, myself included. :)

Our abyssals do have jet-like propulsion, but you'll find it "glide" more so than anything else. Think of the motions of a Manta ray under water. The abyssals are so used to ambushing human forces (because who would expect these things to pop up from beneath the ocean when they're typically seen in the air?) that they simply aren't very fast.

Alright, I think I really just need to pause for a second and consolidate what we've got. I am up to my neck in electronic proofs, new concepts, stuff for the upcoming abyssal guide, translated Pacific 1s, 2s in process, AR1/2's consolidations, essays, website updates, techs, and whatnots.

Sorry guys, but between now and Christmas I will either have a decent amount of time on my hands to update or it'll all get dumped in one large package at some point. Because of how much printing is involved Zero's been sleeping at the printers, and I simply ask again for your patience as we sort out everything.

What I might end up doing is to translate or post small snippets of what I wrote for AR1, and post it either to here or the website directly. I personally have no real preference, though I always feel that full website updates should be a little more substantial than you know, a sketch and a few lines. It's why Sune laughs at me for "abusing" the term dev log. xD

On more lore and the "heart" of Pacific:

Pacific girls are still very different from their Kagero counterparts, and I believe we occupy something of a fairly unique niche in all the fan/original project spin-offs. I'm a medical student, so I don't use things like "super" DNA or the interpretation that these are metal ships (with the appropriate mass or impact or any other number of things) given form. A DNA test of a Pacific girl will probably come back very mundane, with no discernible biological difference between that and you and I. The fact that they possess super-powers (by conventional definitions) and can operate "super" technology (though the inspiration comes from more mythological traditions rather than say, gadgets in conventional speculative fiction) should not detract from either what I think they are or how the ship girls think of themselves. These powers, however, are uniquely linked to the individual and lies in contrast with Kagero's setting, where normal average day folks pick up a gun turret and voila, they now become a ship girl. Also, unlike works dealing explicitly with the concept of summoning, there is no way to bring back a lost ship girl. What you have now is all you have. As one of my favorite idiot protagonists said, people die when they're killed.

I have seen comparisons of ship girls as kami, both in discussion (public or otherwise) of our works and other works, and I confess that it wouldn't be how I interpret Pacific. An appropriate analogy for us readers would be asking if say, Captain America, should still be considered human because he is capable of super-human feats. Or is the Flash human despite in possession of the SpeedForce. A better question might be asked: can Thor or Superman be considered human, if the definition of humanity is having human form, human attributes, and are susceptible to or representative of the sympathies and frailties of human nature.

There will certainly be ship girls in Pacific that believes themselves to be more than human. A certain not-quite antagonist Japanese ship girl blithely believes in the inherent superiority of her to her human charges, and we currently have a certain Mid-Atlantic girl running for U.S. president underneath the same premises using rhetoric suspiciously not UNLIKE that of a certain billionaire. But they are by no means the only correct opinion, and I think in-universe there may never be a correct opinion reached. Certainly STEC took no time in making it rather explicit that yes, ship girls are human (and U.S. ship girls are both de jure and de facto U.S. citizens), though once again I cannot speak to how or if the other organizations or countries in-universe are reaching similar conclusions.

(I confess it may very well be that I am ignorant of the nuances of the Japanese and Chinese language, but I rarely see serious contemplation or discussion of the nature of humanity within the moe-anthro fandom in the same way as people occasionally do here. What I understand is that there is significant appeal to portions of the fanbase in imaging that these girls are still pure weapons of war, human in appearance or in attribute but are otherwise immune to the concerns of human nature. Certainly Kaga from one of the CarDiv light novels said it best. "We are aircraft carriers and should not consider such frail things," and our Japanese team expert's favorite Akagi doujin contains the line "I am an aircraft carrier before I am a woman." I've seen depictions of ship girls where they are functionally like AIs, capable of limited ranges of emotions but otherwise failing to comprehend basic things like love (an ever common one), and I can certainly think of examples in the game where the characterization is played up for laughs or otherwise.)

Yet we have one link that I think makes Pacific a little different, and that is the explicit connection to the memories possessed by the ship girls, and the memories associated with the people that once interacted with those ships. KanColle contains allusions, with some characters possessing very articulate connections that is a part of the character's appeal. It is no coincidence that almost every single memory that I have presented is acutely linked with the people that, in my opinion, created those historical events. Explicitly, we have examples such as Arizona's recall of Kidd rushing onto the bridge, Okie's thoughts on the teachings of father Schmitt, Sanny's recollection of Callaghan's defiance, or the Nevada interview example that was linked. Less explicitly, we have fainter associations with certain memories, such as Helena's recollection of the battles she experienced (and the guilt associated with it), Hornet's instinctive reaction of wanting to apologize to Doolittle (she has the impression that she messed up), or Chicago's fury at the debacle that was Savo Island. Even less explicit we have examples of Shaw's faint recollection of wanting to help fallen sailors, Zao (yes, she's canon and has been for a while)'s memories of distantly ringing bells, or Enterprise's faint recollection of someone's anguish at not being able to save the historical ship.

In other words, one question that I encourages readers who seriously want to think about this stuff is to think about the origins of such memories. Are these memories coming out of the perspective of say, a ship's view, or is it some unknown sailor watching on the decks? Is it the ship itself experiencing these events, or is it through the lens of a living, breathing person that those experiences are remembered? In any case, how to reconcile the past (if we can call these memories the "past" when technically the girls do not personally experience them) with who they are today, and how they go forward from this point on, is a fundamental question that I think applies to everyone. Not just our ship girls.

There are in-universe and out-of-universe reasons that I (and STEC) are interested in exploring them. Planting hints in vol. 1 regarding Northampton's memories and addressing such details now in AR2, STEC believes that the key to overcome the abyssal fleet is to understand just what sort of experiences the ship girls have, and how they might be able to glean from those experiences and turn it into straight-up things (strategies, tactics, or technological advances) to counter the abyssal fleet. I myself am interested in exploring those because, well, it offers me an avenue to poke about in one of the most fascinating periods of history, and I consider it a challenge to try to the best of my ability to make a story that would be believable given that real life individuals are involved.

And, as we close out December and 2015...

As I mentioned elsewhere, updates will likely have to resume after I get back to my usual place of residence. Family activities has been keeping me up until late into the night, and my folks and extended family are all "UP AND EARLY" types.

Zero's off to Winter Comiket tomorrow (today, our time). Chengdu was good, but apparently it was also set at a bad date, so attendance as a whole was fairly low. What might be of interest to folks is what Zero's new project, which I can explain in more detail at a later time.

In short, NEXT GEN is a magazine that combines anime and well, actual military history. Think something like a very slim version of NEWTYPE, but with a specific focus on the two above. For the first issue there's some special commentary on the 70th anniversary of the end of WW2, an article on U.S. navy cuisine (guess who contributed to that xD), Soviet Guard unit organization, the ZIS-30 Tank Destroyer, and the role of Dive Bombers in the Pacific War. There's also some smaller one-shot mangas and an interview with a Chinese mobile game developer, and some commentary on the nature of self-publishing in China today.


Now, this book is a "commercial" endeavor, meaning that the ability to release this as we do (or try to do) for Pacific is beyond our hands. Zero turns to these other projects so we can keep Pacific free for everyone (let's be honest, he's gotta pay his bills, too), and I respect that. I hope you do too.

But the fact that this thing is now in print and being distributed is also an important sign. Very few doujin circles can manage to negotiate and create something meant for "general" commercialization. We did, and we'll simply be letting our extended audience be our judge to see whether or not there'd be sufficient interest to make the next issue.

Just thought I'd share the good news.

Yup, Pacific vol. 2 looks pretty good too. :)


You can see it here.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, all. :)







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January 2016:

A lot of the updates happened behind the scenes. We moved to a new hosting service, and we updated a lot of the main site's wordpress plugins. I also begin to realize that there's a lot of lore I left because well, most folks here can't read the AR series. Thus, the first effort to expand the lore of the Pacific world took form in a series of (still on-going) in-character posts termed the histories of STEC.


[quote]Do abyssals eat the materiel sent out or just the people in them?
Do they attack other life forms or just go after humans?
We can see how abyssals get so huge, but how small do they start off as?

Consider very heavily STEC's own perspective in assembling this information. For instance.
- Abyssal was X in size.
- Abyssal attacks ship.
- Y amount of ship's persons disappear.
- Ship disappears.
- Abyssal is now X+Z in size.

What sort of conclusions can you make from that?

The reason why STEC thinks it's materiel is that a section of STEC's own scholars thinks it's fairly self-explanatory. The amount of mass an abyssal gains is not proportional to how much mass exists in, say, 200 or 300 people. While it's impossible to measure weight of an abyssal, for instance, naval observers can estimate an object's density by looking at things like how deep it sits into the water, and such.


I wouldn't put past the abyssals to use agents to influence humanity, but it would be deliciously ironic since that would imply that they cannot simply brute-force their way past earth's defenses. You'll find (over the next few months as I re-translate and update the stuff in AR1 and 2) that in all honesty the abyssals can simply outlast humanity's mistakes. No additional manipulations necessary. [/quote][/quote]

On logistics:

Here's the situation with the rest of the books.

1. NEIGHBORS are running the Japanese editions of Pacific. If/when they choose to put online preorders, it'll probably be on melonbooks. Whether or not the Japanese editions release electronically (for free) is up to them, because they're taking a pretty big risk by "investing" in a print of a particular type of doujin book.

2. Zero runs the Chinese editions of Pacific. Right now, he has preorders stacked up of Action Report #2, NEXTGEN (the military magazine thing I've talked about), and Pacific 1/2. This includes the international orders that some of you have put out.

(AR1 sold out of print like, a month into its run and I don't believe we're printing it again.)

In short, the system we've got is basically like NEIGHBORS. Our distributor takes care of everything from preorders to customer service to pricing to shipping. Where the push and shove comes in is the electronic distribution. Given how much U.S. creators spend to "protect" their works, it's very difficult to convince stores or agents to let us release our book for free online. I've seen the expenses. I get where they're coming from.  

Which is why I've told them to just give me a chance for this one. Electronic EN vol. 1 will be released free of charge as I've always said, and it looks like it's staying that way.

Comiket went wonderfully. This reminds me - Zero never gave me pictures. xD

Of course, we weren't exactly slow in producing more Abyssals, either. ;)

You will notice that so far, the website updates have STEC talking about "historical" events in the AR series as if they are in the past. This is intentional. That's because the invasion has yet to hit shores, and even this one may be possible to remain clandestine.

To publicly answer someone's email question: The "History of STEC" pieces take place sometimes after the abyssal global incursion, as hinted at by some of the archive classifications. Whether it's months or years or decades after the incursion, and whether or not incursion is still going on, that's really up to the reader to interpret.

Meanwhile, as Sima works on the storyline and character profiles, November's busy practicing human nudes.

On why it's taking so long to run the English edition:

Not posted at the moment due to upcoming English release, but will probably be out at some point. We're still dealing with folks who want to decide how our stuff is distributed, and just between you and I, a lot of other groups fell through because they don't like our "release everything free of charge" mode of operation.

(I gotta admit, that's probably not the best way to make money. But the problem is that (and I don't think it's quite clicking with folks here over in the US) that we aren't Monetizing Pacific as far as we're concerned, and obviously they want more than the capacity for self-sustaining/printing fees.)

Yeah... I can definitely see why we don't see more doujin groups here in the US. It's a little harder to get it up and running than previously anticipated.

EDIT: Just to kind of explain why I can't do it myself.

I'm a medical student. Pacific's a hobby (that I have a tendency to treat like a job because, well, you don't treat what you love with anything less than that).

There's no way I can have enough time to basically run a small business stocking, printing, mailing, and dealing with customers/fans/curious folks, and it's not fair to dump that burden on anyone else within the immediate team.

I think, as I got better at organizing, I tend to post updates in different "parts" or areas. At this point I've had my hands full arranging for the release of different books, and so there was a precipitous drop-off in where I post things. Medical school was also heating up around then, so that took away time as well.

Nonetheless, you can see that the team's creativity is bottomless. xD

November's not really shifting art styles. What he's doing is that he's trying a different painting technique.

It's also now where we first started giving form to our protagonist characters in the storyline.

Also, another 4koma from BC. x) This one's great because the mandarin version is basically a ... dirty joke/double entente. It's on our site, but it's a bit too dirty so I'd rather not explain it here instead.

And, of course, Haku got her "kai." This is really Sima just wanting to draw her (or update her looks). We reset her color scheme and went for something that would have been more theoretically appropriate given the pseudohistorical nature of her "ship."

And at the end of the month? We started the 2016 series. At first we thought we'd just do a one-off thing, but we received such overwhelmingly positive feedback that, well, a mini-series was born. xD








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Feburary 2016: the 2016 mini-series is in full-steam ahead mode.

We put an update on Iowa's personality and character.

And, of course, given that it's the conclusion of her primary...


What's funny, too, is that I've received two emails from Clinton supporters. (I didn't know Pacific readers and Clinton supporters overlapped - I'd have pegged our EN readership (based on those who e-mailed me) to be conservative and Sanders-progressives about 65-45) Anyways, both were particularly displeased at how I chose to depict Clinton as a fairy. In my opinion? It's no better or worse than what we're doing with Trump. That, and in all honesty? We're doing our best to tell it like it is, and sometimes it's fun to focus on memes for particular character "designs."

(Yeah, I know you two are probably reading this now as well. You'll see that what I said above is exactly what I said in my e-mails, too. Considering that Sima's trained as a caricature artist, I think we could have done a lot worse.                                          


Again, more stuff beneath the hood.

We're working on a plugin system to see whether or not we can actually collate and collect the different amount of contents we put up. Between the various storylines (the current events one is one that's happening in "modern" day as opposed to historical or technical lore, though the history of STEC isn't anywhere close to being done by a long shot), the random fun stuff we do like the 4komas, actual event updates, and eventually where we'll put little pages for the various shipgirls, it requires a bit of testing for now.

It may very well turn out that I'm incompetent and couldn't actually implement it. But we'll see.

"What is the Hyuuga incident?"

I'll note that the Hyuuga incident is not the catastrophe described in AR2's RNSTEC intro. It was a situation mostly contained within Asia, and has nothing to do with the Americans or the Soviets. The thing that happened between the Brits and the Russians is something else entirely, and actually takes place not too far from "present day" of Pacific.

February is also when the first glimpses of the English Pacific books are finally ready to be released. I actually remember writing this at 4 in the morning... Good times. xD

That being said, we have never, and I repeat, never contacted any mobile game developer directly. If people still find it hard to believe, we're not in this for profit or fame or glory. We really just have a good story we want to tell, and we like making shipgirls. For now, we're sticking to what we're doing.

I mean, if we're speaking long-term goals, I've got some ideas.

For now, though, a bit of a spoiler.As you guys can see from the recent updates, anything I drop on the website is a "formal" update. Storyline. Lore. New art. Etc.

Anything I leave here on our forums, however, is more like WIP or the type of updates I used to do.

Let me comment on a bit on something concrete, since - as people may know, we've got plans to show up to Boston in March.

This, for all intent and purposes, is what Pacific's EN version will look like (albeit in much higher quality electronically, of course). Compressing these things into images that are of an appropriate size is a ridiculous challenge, but it's largely done.

Now, those of you who can read Chinese may notice some stylistic changes, mostly in content. That is because, well, Chinese really isn't my first language. It's something I picked up in college. While each shipgirl's profile is largely consistent with how she is depicted in the Asiatic language editions, the linguistic structure allows for a different but in my opinion more cogent take on things. The thematic conflict - is a shipgirl a ship or a girl - is much more evident (I hope), and I believe my own writing now makes things a little clearer when they're referring to historical events or themselves.

Two additional points of note are the trivia sections, which has been overhauled. I've got a lot of primary sources and a lot of it'll make it onto the website updates and stories, but I tend to pick the juicy bits and put it in the book. We are a highly connected audience these days. If you're reading a Pacific book, chances are you can look up some of this stuff. My goal is really to poke you to get you to look up some of this stuff, and then tell you some of the cool stuff that might not be so easy to look up.

Lastly, some of the quotes have commentary. This is because our readers have repeatedly pointed out that some of my references they don't get. A lot of the historical ones, for instance, are hard to pick up, so I've taken the liberty to provide some captions and context.

Now, when is it coming out? Soon.

I'm not releasing it until the physical copies hit US shores. But I will release it for everyone BEFORE we put up preorders. After a very, very, very long fight with a lot of involved parties, I won the argument in the end. Let's leave it at that.

See, here's the thing. While we aren't against profit, the idea of doing this for profit like how, say, the commercial retailers or how some illlustrious members of the modern gaming industry just doesn't sit well with me. It took a lot of words on my part, but in the end, the team and our collaborators relented, and gave me a chance. I am allowed to distribute volume 1's English electronically free of charge, before the preorders go out. Against every common sense practice dictated by professional business people, people in the ACG business, and people with a lot more money than we do, that's what we're going to do.

Why? Because it's the right thing to do. I'd rather that we tried to do things right and fail, than to knowingly do something that I'm not comfortable with. If you buy one of our physical books I want you to know exactly what you're getting. I know the Chinese ones have been out already, but it's not the same. This is what we're putting up. This is what you're getting.

Honestly? That's why Zero depresses prices and foots the shipping bill whenever he can. That's why I update like I do. That's why we release stuff electronically at the earliest opportunity. That's why we're all trying to do something else so that Pacific can remain our hobby and more importantly, allow Pacific to live free.
I'm going to be honest. I'm not nervous. Not at all. The best scenario's the best case scenario, and the worst case scenario is that we can't afford to print physical copies in English. It doesn't mean we're going to stop doing this, but before every release I worry about the team, since the Chinese side is the ones footing the very hefty bill in hopes that we break even.

...Okay so it's like 4 AM and I'm still up with class and work tomorrow. Yeah, okay, I'm a little nervous. God I sound like Mr. Trump with this jumbled mess of a word salad.

On why we do stuff like this:

This is correct. English electronic first, pre-orders after. I'll make it very clear in the pre-order page that you can see it for yourself here. They're still telling us that it won't work. So we may very well end up relying on independent friends and colleagues and collaborators instead. We'll see.

My own motivation for this is simple integrity. We're aware that we're potentially losing a lot of money by doing this, but people don't seem to get that honesty, to us, is more important than monetary gain. All of us started out as fans. If you're going to support us with your hard-earned dollars, it's our job and our responsibility to show you what's inside the tin.

This, by the way, is why Zero doesn't do personal transactions. He locks himself in the draconian Taobao interface because it's a matter of accountability. He wants to make sure that you can get your money back or that there are official ways where you can raise a dispute or potentially solve a conflict, or he can ship you replacement copies in case of anything.

You can see that we still haven't put a link up to the preorders yet, because again, it's what we believe is the best way to treat our readers.

More lighthearted Hakuryuu fun. The mini-Monkey King isn't canon. Buuuuuuuut he's awfully cute. xD Happy Chinese New Year!http://www.hon-haka.org/archives/822

It's at this point where we started to consolidate the actual images, and Sima's been working hard to make little banners where things are hopefully easier to find.

I posted Zao over at WOWS because, well, two of the team unlocked the T10 during WOWS's beta. xD I think they're up to T7 now over there and about T4 over here.

This is followed up by some revelation of what's happening in "modern day." You can see what we're setting up for, and you can see just what Morgane means when she says she's not a good writer. My prose is fairly static at places, though again - compare this to what I wrote a year ago, and you can still visibly see improvement. :)


Now, of course, Sima is practicing as well. Here's an attempt to illustrate one of the speakers in the story - "Venerable Ma."

Of course, Pacific took a return trip to Taiwan. Taiwan was where we first managed to "break out," so to speak, since we have home field advantage in Chengdu and Shanghai. As usual, things went well there too.

Of course, since Iowa was also revealed over across the ocean:

Since I actually make shipgirls, I'm afraid that any critique of the artwork, character, or matter of opinion - positive or negative - would be taken the wrong way. What I'm going to say is this.

As other said, she fits KanColle's design theme very well (remember, for all of our humanization in fanfic, the overarching genre is still mecha musume, and you can see an increasing trend towards that rather than away from it). I think there should always be more shipgirls made, because the history matters, and I'm above all happy that KanColle finally put in a real allied shipgirl (sorry, but Bep doesn't count. Neither does Italia).

As an aside, if she had appeared a year and a half ago, would we have still gone ahead with Pacific? The answer is absolutely. After all, November's LSC luck wouldn't have been any different, Zero wouldn't have been any less idealistic, and I certainly wouldn't have been, well, any less motivated.

That being said, though, one of the other things I've been doing is exploring how we can more closely connect history to Pacific. For instance, in one of the STEC archive updates, you can see very clear references to real books and real things that you can pick up.


At this point, too, because we're occasionally hitting into website issues, we were looking for new ways to run the site. There's some back of the line stuff done by Zero as well. :)

Ideally I'd like to keep everything that the team produces on the team's own website. I'd like to keep the data, if that makes sense. That's sort of my line.

We don't mind paying money for a site - I mean, we're doing it now - but Zero and I are both adamantly anti-ads, so freemiums might have be thought of carefully.

Various ideas have been brought up, between wikia-like spaces, an online notebook, tieba-like community structure, a forum gallery section, and others. If you have other suggestions I'm also all ears.

As one last bit to note, since while consolidating my updates, I've noticed a series of posts that I wrote debunking what I perceive as a myth propagated in the KanColle fandom about Yuudachi. I'm obviously no naval historian, but I've recorded my thoughts here, here, here, and here. The whole discussion between myself, TrivetLurker, and the other involved parties is a pretty good example of how I think it's great for fandom to involve one another.

Why does this belong in the thread? First, it's an interesting enough topic. Secondly, it's who I am. The arguments I make, good or bad, they're a part of me. I rarely go out of my way to argue with people these days, but I think it's important to explain why I did it in the first place.

Ironically, the actual KanColle character is very neutral and quite sensible in the depiction of historical events. "Nightmare of Solomon" was attributed to more than one ship, but specifically Yuudachi's captain took ownership of the claim. That by itself wasn't an exaggeration, especially based on what we know.

Again, it's the collective KanColle fanbase - the hivemind that I constantly speak of - that blew everything out of context. KanColle does a great job of raising interest in naval history, yes, but a case like this is at the very minimum carelessness (not technically their fault since Japanese sources tend to rely on the same few writers), at medium stolen valor, and at worst, historical revisionism.

I think people have an obligation to actually seek out the truth when it comes to history. Sorry if you just happened to have been the messenger.

I obviously care about history. Otherwise I wouldn't have gotten into this. Though, it's honestly the result of seeing stuff like this that prompted the creation of some of our follow-up works...      







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More February 2016 stuff:

Now, what's November been up to? Well, November's busy working, and he's been practicing a lot while preparing for our upcoming books in August.

Of course, there's also fun bits like these.

Not gonna lie. New Jersey carries certain "fun" traits over from her IRL creator. I'm not much of a gamer nowadays, but I used to (and still do) finish games on the highest difficulty. I'm not one for achievements, but my Legendary Ironman completion on my first playthrough is one of the proudest things I've got on my steam account.

When BC first drew this I was like there's no way Jer could have gotten an Iowa in KCK in a week.

BC: You sure? :3

Me: Yeah, absolutely.

BC: What difficulty are you on in Fire Emblem IF.

Me: I only play that on the treadmill.

BC: What did you preorder?

Me: ... Everyone preordered Dark Souls III. Not a question.

BC: What's the most actively played thing on your steam account right?

Me: X-COM 2 -

*Misclicks and positioned the rookie I'm leveling wrongly.*

Me: ...okay go post.

Of course, uh... Yeah. I think people were having fun with that too. x) This isn't our art, but someone posted this over and I thought it's very entertaining.

Towards the latter part of this month, we were able to blitz our way through two 2016 pieces. As they got increasingly more elaborate, though, so did it take longer and longer. But I hope you can see why we're having fun. We went from the very simple things you see in the earlier primaries to the funfest you see now.


Ah, Pennsy and Sanny. My two favorite characters (and occasionally caricature) that I can use to poke fun at American politics.

And, as I've said earlier, just because I don't post updates doesn't mean people aren't doing this. Believe me, when you love doing something, you do it constantly. Here's a piece I wrote on the design of our shipgirls, and how I sort of decided what sort of a story we want Pacific to be about.


Again, that's where the inspiration for our Iowa comes from.

Sometimes though, we do stuff like this. Because why not. xD This was a WIP that we turned into an actual update up there, but it was drawn right around this time, too.

Also, why don't you recycle, bro??

I'm going to close out with what I think is probably my favorite update of the month. Had a ton of fun with the article, and reading some of the emails I get from the readers made me grin from ear to ear.








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March 2016:

Many, many, many firsts. Our first "negotiation," our first website outage due to someone pushing one of our election pieces onto Reddit, and many other firsts as well. :)

Where to begin? Well, other than illustrating the shipgirls, we've been working on putting a face to our protagonists as well. That I think is one of the key advantages of the Japanese "visual novel" format. You know what they say about a picture's worth a thousand words. ;)


Given its geopolitical location, China does play a significant role in the world of Pacific. I'm proud to say that the efforts that the Chinese team goes to find additional materials and resources easily rival my own, and like what we do with everything else, we're doing our best to create a China that is at least believable within our own context.

There's a bit of that Sino-Japanese rivalry there, and much like the deeply nuanced interactions between the two countries IRL, there is conflict and tension, but there is also the underlying opportunity for unification. The NKT - Japan's shipgirl service - is anything but unified, and given what's happened to Japan in Pacific (at least in terms of its government), a peaceful, cooperative rise is not implausible, though it is certainly not looking that way at all given what we know.

Of course, 2016 continues with Super Tuesday.


Call it civic duty. Call it me loving politics - I have said frequently that it's my Monday night football equivalent. We love this series. Nobody (including ourselves) would have expected us to turn it into something more than an Iowa oneshot. But ... once we started making it, well, that's where our creative energies and efforts are taking us.

Now, on the other side, Zero is ran ragged getting items ready for shipping, dealing with the EN Pacific release, and so on. November's been busy too, but he's nonetheless still putting a lot of effort in his craft.

What you can see here is that November is actively playing with stylistic references. We want to do something fun for our next book (that's not just Pacific vol. 3).

"In what place does the fairy characters in 2016 have in Pacific proper?"

In all seriousness, it is entirely plausible for some, or all, of these guys to become fairies in Pacific's lore. Given that Pacific focuses unapologetically on the inherent value (some would say, heroics) of humanity, think about a character that is the physical manifestation of the finest qualities of that particular historical figure...

... And you suddenly realize. You know what? Against the Abyssals, these guys should all team up.

They'd be great.

Of course, a bit of naval history too...

As for the Iowa vs Yamato argument? People's already fanwanked over this point on this forum to hell and back anyways. At this point, 99% of readers have made up their minds, and just like how I recently tore apart the whole runaway "Nightmare of Solomon" thing with Yuudachi in another forum, what we see is the result of the fandom (of naval combat) collectively coming together and perpetuating certain myths to the point where it becomes "fact."

One point I feel the need to actually comment, since everyone (on both sides) post the picture of the damn plate without reading the whole thing...

From Nathan Okun's Website
TEST #2 on 23 October 1946 (IMPACT #33459):

POINT OF IMPACT: About halfway between first impact and base of plate, centered between cutout for gun port and left edge of plate, at 0.5° obliquity from normal where plate was 25.98" thick.

STRIKING VELOCITY: 1707 feet/second (502.3 m/sec)

RESULT: Projectile nose tip only penetrated 21" (53.34cm) into the plate, though punching a hole entirely through. Projectile was completely undamaged (merely lost its windscreen and AP cap, as usual). Plate had exactly the same thing happen to it as with the first test, with numerous small cracks, many laminations, and a complete break through hole between left edge and curved gun port cutout.

Emphasis mine. This isn't WOT on water, guys. This doesn't prove that the armor is automatically crap. It also doesn't prove that Yamato's invincible.

For the record, short of putting them both at 29000 yards in perfectly clear daytime weather with calm seas and have them take turns shooting at each other, my money's on Iowa. That's an opinion, and I'll be happy to convince any skeptics of why one wins over the other. But unless you give me a few billion dollars to reconstruct both ships as is, there's zero evidence that we can "prove" that in an argument. You don't go out of your way to convince people who don't want to be convinced. At the maximum I think you stop things that are blatantly false - hey, let them think what they will.

FYI, Professionals in the naval history circle still debate whether or not the Hood could have beat Bismarck, folks, and that was an actual fight that we had seen IRL. [/quote]

Unfortunately, we weren't able to make Boston. Again, we were surprised to see how unlucky this one was, but it is what it is. :)

A couple of notes. First of all, it looks like due to VISA issues, Boston is very likely going to be a wash-out. We are now seeking an alternative venue for our North American inception.

The VISA thing is especially surprising considering how early Zero put in his VISA application. Moral of the story, guys, is that sometimes, even six months isn't enough. That is our fault and our nativity, and I'll be the first to communicate my disappointment.

That being said, the release proceed as previously discussed. I am unwilling to discuss monetary matters such as pre-orders until I can show you guys what you're getting for the English release.

I will have a document (a zip file) prepared much like our other electronic releases for download, but we are now seriously looking into some kind of a gallery or wiki as a way of hosting content. As we streamline our writing for release, we've noticed that Pacific almost requires some kind of living document to keep track of what's what. The subtle nuances in our universe - for instance, certain legislation being passed earlier - can directly affect how a particular character might view an issue. References to in-universe events makes it almost a necessity at this point.

If someone wants to volunteer for this, I'd love to talk in more detail. Otherwise, we'll do what we can with what manpower we have.

And, of course, some more commentary on the 2016 miniseries:

"How do you feel about Chris Christie?"

First of all, the donut thing is funny. You guys thinking it's an attack on his weight is missing the point. Christie, through a serious regimen and some medical intervention, lost a whole lot of weight. I'm a medical student. Believe me, it's not easy for people to lose weight. The fact that he's managed to keep most of it off should be something all of us can applaude.

Insofar as how I see Mr. Christie, I'd like to say that I think his meteoric rise - and crash - are both well deserved. I do not agree with all of his words or his actions, but I will say this.

While doing research for the 2016 series, I am amazed at how vitrolic and biased the vast majority of sources I've came across. Networks that I thought are respectable are willing to run complete falsehoods and stick to stories that have been proven false. I find the constant barrage of attacks coming from our supposedly "unbiased" media to be excessive. Unlike Mr. Trump, who has his supporters, virtually nobody is speaking up for my governor, and those that do cannot get their opinion onto the national spotlight.

No matter how disagreeable or vile someone is, I'm going to say I think a lot of what we're doing now is unAmerican. Apologies if it's triggering anyone in the audience, though, if I can be proud for a second?

Pacific has arguably the widest range of readers I've ever came across and ever had the pleasure to interact with. We have very idealistic liberals and conservatives. Libertarians and centrists. A handful of nationalists from all corners of the world, and a handful of folks that genuinely believe that globalization and a movement towards unification is the best for humanity. I trust that we can continue to do stuff like this because you know what I've noticed? Above all else, people are willing to listen and consider the other side. I love the fact that through my interaction with each of you you've been remarkably civil on every matter to date, and I sincerely hope that as we continue with 2016, we have the opportunity to continue as we have.

Two months later, as I look back at these last two months, those words were more true than I think I'd have realized at the time.







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March 2016:

Many, many, many firsts. Our first "negotiation," our first website outage due to someo ...

March 2016:

On Alternative History in Pacific:

(This is directly in response to readers who were wondering about the implications of the alternative Suez Crisis as discussed in AR2)

As a starting point let us look at the solid change which has taken place. The United Kingdom, France, and Israel win against Egypt in an earlier and ahistorical Suez Crisis. The result is that the Suez Canal and the territory around it are surrendered to the UK. The Egyptain leader General Gamel Abdel Nasser is deposed. What could it lead to? Well here are some thoughts. Bear in mind that until Morgane writes it in an AR book or put it on a website, these are ideas, and are not necessarily entirely going to be canonical.

Nasser championed the cause of pan Arab-unity and nationalism. His historical victory in the Suez Crisis over the British gave him credibility and influence with the Arab world, whilst the same event discrediting the British and showed them up for the broken imperial power they were. People across the Arab world were emboldened to either directly challenge British rule or the regimes perceived to be supported by Britain. In Pacific, with Nasser defeated, deposed, and discredited none of that would happen. Pan-Arabism doesn't have a key champion and the British retain the illusion of being a world power. With a weaker Arab nationist movement, the pro-west factions are likely strengthened, and some like the pro-west Iraq monarchy might have clung on.

However, with a British victory at Suez (which they now get to keep in the peace agreement) and the discovery of oil in the Arab peninsula, the UK has no reason to pull out from East of Suez like they historically did. And with weaker Arab nationalism I think it's quite possible that the UK could keep onto it's Arab protectorates. For those that don't know, the British Trucial States (what is now the U.A.E.) Bahrain, Qatar, and Kuwait were not ruled directly by London. They had their own emirs and governments and were in charge of their own domestic affairs. But they historically made deals with the British to offer their sovereignty and preferential trading to the UK for protection. They were small emirates in a nasty neighbourhood with big guys like Saudi Arabia, Ottomon Empire and Iraq who wanted to eat them. Historically the UK decided to leave the U.A.E. unilaterally in 1971 (not that long ago) using military budget cuts as a reason. The local Emirs actually tried to keep the British around by offering to pay for the UK's military costs in the country. Ironically once the British left, they had to go back in since the bigger Arab countries did try to eat them lol. The British can more than likely keep them provided the local rulers were content to have the Brits around.

Thus, in a nutshell, I'd say we have stronger British political influence. Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Oman are traditional pro-British allies in the region. With the British Empire sticking around in the neighbourhood via the Suez Canal and it's Gulf protectorates, I suspect there would be greater cooperation. Depending on what the British do/don't do, the pro-west monarchies of Iraq and Iran might have survived their respective coups and revolutions. In parallel, American influence in the region is likely to be weaker, simply because there would be no vacuum of power to exploit.

An additional comment on this point is that one of the most visible butterfly differences is how the Abyssal attack really influenced US higher echelon thinking, particularly that of Eisenhower. Subtle shifts in US policy would mean very drastic changes in the response coming out of the other major power - the USSR. We didn't get Nasser to pre-emptively launch an attack because we could. We simply sat down and looked available documents (mostly what we can find on the USSR side) and concluded that given the rapidly untenable situation in Egypt, Nasser - by no means a stupid man - decided that it was worth the risk to decide matters, assuming that the USSR will step in AND that the US will take a neutral stance. And initially, the USSR did provide support - like how history happened.

Outwardly, remember that we are maintaining status quo all the way up to 1950. The bloodier Korean war means that there is an even better chance that America will not intervene, so Nasser's gamble was a sound one. Except the US stepped in, and made a clear stance in Pacific's timeline about what it supports. The basic gist of it is that the US is basically speaking firmly: if you want to escalate, then fine, escalate! It was the calling of a bluff of a type not seen since the earlier days, and the stance is what caught the USSR off-guard.

According to documents we had access to (IRL), the USSR was counting on the western powers to back down given the political situation at hand. They were counting on America's own "dedication" to the rule of law, especially since the UN JUST moved to intervene in Korea and the Soviets JUST got away with crushing the Hungarians. There was no reason to believe that the US wouldn't cave to demands to keep the status quo.

Except, in our world, Eisenhower didn't have to think about how to deal with a terrible threat decades in the future. In Pacific, Ike would have recognized that if WWIII didn't start over the Koreas, the Soviets wouldn't have started WWIII over Egypt.

Lastly, on Vietnam, it's generally considered a foregone conclusion in Pacific that the Vietnam war didn't happen AS IS. Until I can find an appropriate historical reason to butterfly out the possibility, though, it's best that we don't comment on it too much. Reconstructing entire timelines is hard. ;)

Just an example of our thinking, though about later that week, I posted a note.

We're going to turn our current characters into some kind of a guide, I think, since they've evolved quite a bit from their counterparts back in Iowa - I cannot believe it's only been like, a month into the primary season. I'll say the same for the other candidates. In some senses, how we've chosen to depict them should be viewed from our perspective, which is to say that we try to focus on the good or the hilarious - whichever it may be. If one of these guys do end up becoming president, then in Pacific's timeline - not this mirror-verse where 2016 takes place in - could very well use their help against the Abyssal incursions.

Our worst design by a mile is Madam Secretary, but I'd say that Witch/Archmage Hillary is also fairly representative of her best and worst qualities. In other words, what I'm saying is that for some people, it's easy to see the implicit bad - maybe we're saying that she "magically" wiped her servers, for instance. For some others, though, it's easy for them to see the implicit good (the "magical touch" opinion comes to mind) with such a design. After all, note that in no case are we actually demonizing any of our fairies. Nobody's a gunk. We're not intentionally trying to make them more ugly or what-nots than they already are. They're all drawn with painful attentiveness to detail, and each action depicts something significant happening in the context of that time.

(Er, Ted. I just gotta apologize. Ted Cruz, no offense, is really not photogenic. It's very very very very very very hard to maintain his observable features and not have them turn out to be horribly ugly in our three-four head tall Chibi style. His features are unfortunately exaggerated much more so than the other candidates because he also has no discernible "catcheye." His hairstyle is pretty ordinary, and even Kasich we've got a "furrowed brow" that makes him quite easily distinguishable from the other ones.)

That being said, however, starting from the next update, I will begin to write in opinions based on our shipgirls. As part of the broadening perspective, I am going to do my best to try to really get into the mindsets of other people. There are a few that I am quite confident in. The more passionate (far) left and right girls are easy for me to write, because it is easy to capture soundbytes and perspectives.

The less-strong voices, on the other hand, are decidedly more difficult to capture. Take Mary, for instance. She is a devout Catholic, and would probably place her faith (or her willingness to contemplate faith) as a central tenet of her character. As she hinted at in her vol. 2 profile, Mary is more than aware of the "composite" nature of her identity. This awareness means that she is naturally more sensitive to issues that someone like her (city-dwelling, urbane, and highly educated) may not understand at a casual glance. Where she stands on an issue, then, is less so about what she believes things would be best for the country as a whole, but rather, how she feels about a particular matter. Politics to her is much more personal than someone like, say, Jer or Mahan.

In Pacific, remember, the shipgirls themselves are NOT a complete facsimile of the state or city. You will find democrats in Texas and republicans in California. My goal is to create a character whose connections to their namesake states are deep, insightful, and most importantly, believable. Here, in case it is not particularly obvious, Mary would favor someone like Dr. Carson. Above all else she is not necessarily looking for a great leader, but a great man. If you were to poll Mary right now about who she would support for president she will tell you that she is undecided, but she is registered in the Republican primary.

Could I have created a Bernie-backing Mary for Pacific proper, because her deep admiration for strength of character can be applied to Bernie? Of course. Could I have created a Clinton-voting Mary, because it is entirely sensible - based on how we've written her - that Mary sees the thirty-plus years of Madam Secretary's actions in politics and acknowledge and admire that aspect of her character? Of course. Would it be possible for Mary, in some other mirror Pacific universe, be supporting Cruz because of his hard-line stance on "conservatism," which obviously applies to a segment of people? How about Mr. Trump? Mr. Kasich?

My answer to all of these is, yes. Absolutely. Of course. I've spent every non-academic, non-Pacific waking moment pouring over political commentary and news articles for this series. Politics have always been my drug of choice - it's my football and alcohol more or less rolled into one. I've combed through major and minor, national and regional newspapers in preparation and consideration for every one of our shipgirls, should a time comes where I need to give them voice and let them talk.

That time might come soon enough. Sima is constantly challenging himself - look at how much more complex his art has become these days. I would like to challenge myself as well by seeing if I can create an accurate "shadow" of a particular supporter of a particular candidate. Here, I could almost say that our shipgirls are actors - if it weren't for the fact that I will be giving you an intimate look into what they actually believe in.

2. Pacific vol. 1.

English will be put out electronically before March is over. I've made sure of it. No information on physical preorders, especially because we cannot make Boston. Most likely we will release a "scan" equivalent of the book, and then figure out a wiki to go with it.

3. History of STEC is temporarily on hold due to lore team being unavailable. I will most likely post snippets here, but nothing goes on hon-haka proper.

4. Other announcements may or not be coming depending on Zero's plans.

Now, turns out? We were indeed ready to announce our next book at the end of the month. This is with Zero handling ALL the shipping and the Chinese releases of ORIONS and our other projects and the Pacific English release all at the same time.

Now, just a hint as to what November's been working on.

Don't forget. Part of what we're doing now is fleshing out our world.

This, by the way, is what Avalon looks like. Or might look like. Imagine this in color. Detailed in November (or Sima - we haven't figured out quite who's actually going to be drawing the base yet)'s normal style.

Imagine this being the backdrop to a g -

Of course, the month ended up being mostly related to Super Tuesday and its aftermaths, but the rapid pace of the race meant that we couldn't draw the before-after like we did before.


It's really at this point that we got discovered by the Chinese, and our work became a fun part of discussion at several major Chinese ACG-related forums, but chiefly that of S1.


We actually ended up doing one of these, too. A guide to the presidential candidates. We got all the "major" ones that were still around by the time Nevada rolled around.


And, of course, with Rubio's defeat...








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April 2016:

By far the meatiest update is Pacific vol. 1, which you can see here. I did go back and sneak in a few pages like creator's notes and framed Pacific in a better context, but as far as I'm concerned, my duty was complete, a year and five months later after the initial release.

Longtime readers will notice that there are a few different things – at least stylistically – about the books, and I want to give a quick explanation for why that might be the case.

Chinese is not my first language. It is not even my second, or third, or fourth language. It is a language that I learned out of passion for learning (and also for reading things like Romance of the Three Kingdoms), and while the Chinese team often comments on how much I’ve improved, native speakers can tell that there’s something off about the way sentences are used. But when we first released Pacific, that’s what it was. I did my best then, and I’m going to do my best now.

Quite some time has passed between the three different language editions. I watched with some amazement at the consolidation of our own lore, and when an opportunity arose to clarify my own writing, I took it. You may not see this as well as my team, who sees snippets and comments from me all the time, but if I dropped Pacific drafts from a year ago versus now, the improvement is more or less self-evident. You can see some of that, in fact, on this very blog.

That being said, the English version contains more or less the same level of detail as the Chinese release, but it benefits from a more experienced Morgane and an inherent linguistic advantage, which allows me to present my thoughts and our characterizations with more clarity. Rather than forcing the reader to hunt down the sources and have them rummage through the details, I wrangled Zero into remastering the quotes by providing footnotes when necessary. The trivia section has been largely updated, with additional clarifying naval history concepts for our audiences here at home, and it’s what I would like to do for future volumes of Pacific.

Physical preorders will be coming in some time later. The physical prints version will have more to it – some author’s notes, additional commentary, and the like, but insofar as the shipgirls go, this is what it’ll look like. As I said, I’d like people to know what they’re getting so they can make an informed purchase. I don’t want low-resolution previews or intrusive watermarks getting in your way of enjoying our work. If I say we’re release our content for free, it should be free.

I’d love nothing more to see the physical hard-copies do well and Pacific earns enough from that to keep herself printed, but I really do believe that if we’re trying to sell anything, we need to do it right. Trying to do things right is what got us started on this journey. If this release is where our luck run dry, then we’ll be happy still, knowing that even to the end we did our very best to treat our readers right.

Yes, I know today’s April Fool’s Day. I figured it’d be something of a nice meta joke, since I will solemnly swear that every word up there in this post is nothing but heartfelt truth. People are expecting tricks today, so what better trick could there be than, well, being perfectly frank and honest?

You can get a copy of the book from our MEGA drive, and if you want a mirror onto other places, I'll be happy to do that as well.

Meanwhile, we continued on with the 2016 miniseries. By then, it's picked up quite a bit of traffic for our site. The US readership almost overtook the Chinese ones overnight.


Now, the rest of April was actually a lot of stuff behind the scenes. In fact, you can see this for our May update as well. You can see from this original post here that I was really very excited. The excitement may be masking a bit of dread, because this is not something we've ever done before. But here it is. We've came this far. Let's see how much further we end up going.

I'll disclose one thing that I really shouldn't tell folks, but what the hell, I've never been one to watch my mouth anyways. There are other things that the Pacific team is working on, and if you know how we do things, if everything go well (we're under-budget and ahead of schedule) you'll see it in maybe a few months and it would have came completely out of the left field. It'll be great.

If I sound like a certain guy with crazy hair from up north, it's because I'm pretty proud of what we've built. We've turned down more buyout attempts than a work of our size should legitimately have the right to. In fact, we still get studio contacts roughly about one a month, mostly from enterprising young Chinese studios, though you'd be surprised to see how big some of the lines really are. As always, we've politely told them that Pacific's not for sale. You can consider hiring us for other things or other projects, but Pacific'll always be the one thing that we keep for ourselves and for our readers.

In fact, I'd say that's what makes us unique in the doujin field. We can't be bought. We're beholden really only to us - so basically our team and our readers - and our ideals. It's what gives Zero the willpower to ship out a free copy of Pacific 2 to anyone who received the slightly misprinted book. It's what gives me the courage to stand up to predatory publishing practices here in America and go, no, we'll treat our readers fair or no deal.

And you know, people keep on telling us that we can't keep doing this. I'm going to say, well, we're going to keep on doing this the right way until we can't do it any more. We've all gained so much from being a part of this amazing team. I've met amazing people, and being with them have showed me that as long as there's a will, there's a way.

Why am I telling you all of this?

Well, soon enough, you'll see it in English. Zero's prepping materials now. But for now?

Basically, for early summer, we've got two releases coming up. The upcoming Abyssal has been translated into Chinese and is currently on preorder. For about 20$ you get a 150 pg full color book featuring Kannnu's Abyssal Himes and princesses.

Because this is not our book, but Kannnu's, any English release would be subject to Kannnu's approval. When he drops by we'll be sure to ask - if there's enough folks interested. If nothing else happens and we do go forward with an English release, I believe I'll be the translator. You've seen my posts and Pacific. You know how I work and what I believe in, so that's what you're gonna get.

(I'll note that for this release, we've kept some of his unusual grammatical quirks like JAVELIN THE SPINE. ORIONS have this issue as well, and after discussion we've decided to keep it for the Chinese release, correcting only when there are meaningful errors that cannot be interpreted as artistic expression. Like misspelling stuff for instance xD)

Our second book to be release early summer to mid-summer is our own book. While a 3rd Action Report and a 3rd Pacific are indeed on the way, this is something else that we're adding.

The internal codename for this book is Around the World/Global Voyage. This is more or less pure SoL. I say more or less because, as the topic suggests, it's our shipgirls traveling around the world. Expect plenty of cutes and cultural exchange. Glimpses of what life's like in Pacific's (reasonably to slightly) altered universe. You'll see a lot of characters crop up, and this is what November (featured below) is spending the bulk of his time on when he's not in the kitchen -

(I know it's bad taste and all but I actually think he's super attractive right there in an apron and cooking.

Is this objectification? Am I being sexist?

Am I off script again?


Our third major release has been announced in mandarin. This is a historically oriented illustration series similar to some of our other works such as NEXTGEN or our columns found in Chinese military magazines, and you'll recognize a number of artists new and old. The team's name for this work? The Greatest Generation. You won't see any shipgirls or abyssals here. But you will see a lot of illustrations on military uniforms and assorted details. As Zero put it, think the Osprey books, but in anime form.

This is a longer work, and I am unable to provide a timeline, but soon, probably. I will be incorporating our website into its release, and will be experimenting about releasing content in sync with the Chinese side. So pretty exciting stuff as well. If this keeps up I might have to start looking for additional talent. xD

Greatest Generation focuses on the experiences of war from the eyes of three major powers. The United States (illustrated by Siqi), The USSR (illustrated by November), and the Commonwealth/British Empire (illustrated by S3eye)

As for what we're doing? You'll have to see.

And, of course, a final note?

New shipgirl incoming.

That new shipgirl turned out to be New York. Before we did that update, however, Zero made a couple of former announcements such as pur Abyssal work.


For Greatest Generation, we are focusing on the North Africa Campaign, and of course, the Eastern Front. I don't have more information on when this'll be released, but it will be at sometime soon. xD

As November works through the Around the World book, we've received clearer ideas as to what we want the book to be. The general gist of the theme? Something a whole lot more lighthearted. Think Carnival Phantasm if you're familiar with TYPE-MOON stuff.

Of course, one of my favorite updates of the month is probably this one.








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May 2016

Again, for much of May, work was going on behind the scenes. There were many things we learned about how to make sure Pacific can be sold legally in the US. From customs to import tariffs to insurance to shipping, believe me, I now understand why it's hard for doujin groups to crop up in America. Nonetheless, the important thing is that for what it's worth, we accomplished what we set out to do. As the team search for an appropriate "beachhead" event to come to America, we'll be continuing with the aforementioned books (Around the World, Vol. 3, AR3, Abyssal manual, GG).

We have decided that it's probably best to use the main site as a way to "feature" more complete updates. Examples include my ramble-filled gripes on 2016. That being said, though, I do enjoy posting WIPs and showcasing our own thought process. And so we've decided that we'll keep this part of the forum open, free from clutter, and clear for us to see. This'll end up becoming as much of a gallery for our readers as much as a diary for our own PoV's sakes.

So what did happen in May? Well, for starters, we released the Chinese variant of Abyssal at Chengdu. We tried producing a new type of loot for the convention -

They end up being rather warmly received.

Okay, you know how I know Chengdu went well?

Zero was so busy he couldn't even find time to take pictures.

Though this was apparently the ride used to just get people to where places are.

Yeah, he has like a handful, since the guy went back to the printers to get more books, I'll see if I can tease a few more out of him. In the meantime...

Proof that Kannnu's a huge pokemon fan:

(Should've asked him for his FC so we can battle or something. >__________>)

What happened after the convention (or, why isn't Zero working on X?)

Me: Good job! Just finish those off and you can be done right?

Zero: That's not even like 20%. x_________x

People often forget that we're a very, very, very small team. I mean, at least on the Chinese end of things it's all Zero. Still, it makes me happy seeing the piles and piles and piles of books there. We don't really advertise. Each one of those (or the stacks earlier) is going to a reader who stumbled upon our stuff (largely thanks to you - who else would have told them that we exist?) and liked it enough to make a purchase. It's what really doujin is.

As for what November's been up to this month? A lot of concept art sketches. Dozens and dozens of pieces, only some will ultimately make the cut (unfortunately). We want each illustration in our next book to be a self-contained scene, so that's really where the challenge is.

For instance, this piece here. Weavy visiting a certain European cathedral. When does this take place? Before, during, after the Abyssals invade?

Some, like this one, is decidingly more SoL in nature.

As our 2016 series become increasingly more elaborate, so, too, is the season drawing a close. I don't know if we'll keep on going - we've been contacted by several interested parties regarding our stuff - but we'll see.



This piece would technically "end" around May 16 (two weeks ago), where I started to consolidate all of our information and creations.
"Hey, Pacific guys. We got new equipment for the shop. Want to give that a go for your books?"

We first tried printing out ABYSSAL on those. Turns out the magic robo-arm things are great. Looks like they weren't the only ones who got an upgrade this time around. x)

Zero says the newest book is actually higher DPI than our Chinese/Japanese releases. You can't see it much with the proofs here, but he says it's pretty obvious once you see the actual paper copies.

See, you can even see the "false" aging process we applied, just to make it entertaining. x) Yeah, it'll be a nice collector's item fit for anyone's bookshelves. We're pretty happy to see how it's turning out.

Also November's not Stellaris. xD Which is probably why we've got new character art for GG.

At this point, everything below? Should be new stuff. Stuff that you haven't seen before.

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